Friday, February 20, 2009

Nancy Pelosi: "Socialist" or "Scary Person" or Catholic?


Got a ranting email from someone today yelling that Nancy Pelosi is a socialist and a marxist. How dare she argue that the rich should help the poor? How could she not? She's a Catholic. Yep, got blessed by the Pope last week. I disagree with her stance on abortion, but when she's right, she's right. The email called her a "very scary person." Here are some quotes from other "scary people."

“The Father sent the Son into the world to defend the poor.” – St. Augustine.

“If someone who has the riches of this world sees his brother in need and closes his heart to him, how does the love of God abide in him?" (1 Jn 3:17). It is well known how strong were the words used by the Fathers of the Church to describe the proper attitude of persons who possess anything towards persons in need. To quote Saint Ambrose: "You are not making a gift of your possessions to the poor person. You are handing over to him what is his. For what has been given in common for the use of all, you have arrogated to yourself. The world is given to all, and not only to the rich.” – Pope Paul VI, Populorum Progressio (On the Progress of Peoples), 1967, #23.

“A consistent theme of Catholic social teaching is the option or love of preference for the poor. Today, this preference has to be expressed in worldwide dimensions, embracing the immense numbers of the hungry, the needy, the homeless, those without medical care, and those without hope.” – Pope John Paul II, Solicitudo Rei Socialis (On Social Concern), 1987, #42.

“As followers of Christ, we are challenged to make a fundamental “option for the poor” -- to speak for the voiceless, to defend the defenseless, to assess life styles, policies, and social institutions in terms of their impact on the poor. This "option for the poor" does not mean pitting one group against another, but rather, strengthening the whole community by assisting those who are the most vulnerable. As Christians, we are called to respond to the needs of all our brothers and sisters, but those with the greatest needs require the greatest response.” – U.S Catholic Bishops, Economic Justice For All, 1986, #16.

“As individuals and as a nation, therefore, we are called to make a fundamental "option for the poor". The obligation to evaluate social and economic activity from the viewpoint of the poor and the powerless arises from the radical command to love one's neighbor as one's self. Those who are marginalized and whose rights are denied have privileged claims if society is to provide justice for all. This obligation is deeply rooted in Christian belief.” – U.S Catholic Bishops, Economic Justice For All, 1986, #87.

“The needs of the poor take priority over the desires of the rich; the rights of workers over the maximization of profits; the preservation of the environment over uncontrolled industrial expansion; the production to meet social needs over production for military purposes.” – (U.S Catholic Bishops, Economic Justice For All, 1986, #94.

“Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' "He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” (Matt 25:41-46).

“And raising his eyes toward his disciples he said: "Blessed are you who are poor, for the kingdom of God is yours. Blessed are you who are now hungry, for you will be satisfied. Blessed are you who are now weeping, for you will laugh. Blessed are you when people hate you, and when they exclude and insult you, and denounce your name as evil on account of the Son of Man. Rejoice and leap for joy on that day! Behold, your reward will be great in heaven. For their ancestors treated the prophets in the same way. But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation. But woe to you who are filled now, for you will be hungry. Woe to you who laugh now, for you will grieve and weep. Woe to you when all speak well of you, for their ancestors treated the false prophets in this way.” (Luke 6:20-26 NAB)

“His mercy is from age to age to those who fear him. He has shown might with his arm, dispersed the arrogant of mind and heart. He has thrown down the rulers from their thrones but lifted up the lowly. The hungry he has filled with good things; the rich he has sent away empty.” (Lk 1:50-52 NAB).

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Blogger standup4vatican2 said...

There is difference between maintaining a preferential option for the poor and agitating for economic collectivism. The Church rejects both socialist and laissez-faire market systems. A laissez-faire market precludes the equitable distribution of resources while communism denies the right to private property and hinders social mobility.

Blessed Pius IX said that it is impossible to both Catholic and Socialist simultaneously. Here are some other pertinent quotes from late popes:

"...Socialism...cannot be reconciled with the teachings of the Catholic Church because its concept of society itself is utterly foreign to Christian truth."
QUADRAGESIMO ANNO, 117, Encyclical of His Holiness Pius XI
Reconstruction of the Social Order, May 15, 1931

"...no Catholic [can] subscribe even to moderate Socialism."
MATER ET MAGISTRA, 34, Bl Pope John XXIII
On Christianity and Social Progress, May 15, 1961

"Socialists...debase the natural union of man and woman...the [family] bond they...deliver up to lust. Lured...by the greed of present goods...they assail the right of property. While they seem desirous of caring for the needs and satisfying the desires of all men, they strive to seize and hold in common whatever has been acquired either by title, by labor, or by thrift."
QUOD APOSTOLICI MUNERIS, 1, Encyclical of His Holiness Pope Leo XIII
On Socialism, December 28, 1878

Whether or not Nanacy Pelosi is a socialist or not is not something that I, as a non-American, would be capable of pronouncing judgement upon, but her policies on life and family issues are utterly reprehensible. Your rejection of her pro-abortion stance is far too temperate to warrant comfort. Her support for the indiscriminate massacring of the unborn is not something that one can just casually 'disagree' with; it deserves to be roundly denounced. If I were to communicate my mere 'disagreement' with Hitler's policies to some of my Jewish acquaintances, they would doubtlessly treat my words with contempt, and would be doing so with ample justification.

Fri Feb 20, 05:00:00 PM 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reply to Catholic Observer:

Thanks for your thoughtful comment, but I suggest you miss the point.

The issue isn't really whether Pelosi is a socialist.

The issue is that some use the charge of "socialist" or "marxist" to claim that Pelosi and others in public office should not help the poor. Catholic Social Teaching and Scripture are unequivocal: One cannot be a Catholic and ignore or denigrate those suffering poverty.

Fri Feb 20, 07:06:00 PM 2009  
Blogger standup4vatican2 said...

^^^On that I'm in full accord.

Regards,
Catholic Observer

Fri Feb 20, 07:41:00 PM 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Catholic Observer,

Again, thanks for your comment.

On the abortion question, please see my post Feb 4, 2009 on this blog.

The analogy of Hitler's atrocities to the practice of abortion limps. The difference between Hitler's genocidal persecution of Jews and U.S. abortion policy is this: Hitler's was a State program carried out by minions of the State. Any Nazi soldier who refused to follow orders was soon as dead as the Jews he was ordered to put in the concentration camps and ovens.

As deplorable as it is that Abortion is allowed by the Roe v. Wade ruling, The USA, as a nation state, does not force any woman to have an abortion.

Pelosi, Obama, et. al, take an oath to uphold the constitution of the USA. The U.S. Constitution, not the politicians, allows abortion.

When women no longer seek abortions, and when Doctors no longer perform the procedure, abortion will end.

I think the principle of subsidiarity applies here. The Shoah could only be addressed at the level of the State. Six million of our Jewish brothers and Sisters were murdered by the Nazi government, not by individual Nazis acting alone. Abortion is enacted, one by one, through the choices of the people involved (Father, Mother, Doctor). The Government of the USA does not require anyone to have or perform abortions. To therefore blame the politicians is disingenuous. The only way to overturn Roe v. Wade is by getting a case to the Supreme Court that will allow the Justices to make things right. But even if the court overturns Roe v. Wade, people will still be able to abort babies in other countries or illegally in the USA. Thus we are back to individuals must decide not to abort babies.

The movie Juno portrays such a personal decision process. The cry of "Your baby has fingernails" causes the young teen to decide to give the child up for adoption rather than abort.

Fri Feb 20, 08:01:00 PM 2009  
Blogger Greg Calhoun said...

Nice selection of quotes you found for us. If we could take care of each other on our own, we wouldn't need federal aid. But we can't, and we need advocates for the poor in public office. They will likely never fit the exact mold of what I would want based on Catholic Social Teaching, but it is hard for someone will that prophetic of beliefs to get through the pragmatic process of being elected. So we hope and pray that a mosaic of people who care for the downtrodden do make it in to give voice to the voiceless.

Thu Feb 26, 04:21:00 PM 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The whole article is about how we (individuals) should help the poor, but there is not one line, no evidence that Nancy ever did or will. In fact she has done more damage to the poor (and the rest of us) than any other politician since the declaration of independence. This administration has spent more in six weeks than was spent since 1776. The stock market declined to 1997 levels in a few weeks. God bless the poor in spirit, not the imbecils. And as for the comment about Hitler's minions--when abortion becomes a 'right' that is worse than a law and the minions who will be enforcing it will be our pro-life doctors and nurses Obama's minions. I think the thing that saddened me the most about reading what you wrote is that you - the writer are a proffessor. You remember the declaration of independence "We hold these truths to be SELF EVIDENT, hat all men are created equal and endowed by the creator with certain unalienable rights: life, liberty and the pursiut of happiness..." Life comes way before happiness! If more people put life first personally we would see a huge change politically. Obama and Pelosi would never have been elected and we would have a culture of life in government. Instead we put what is politically correct as top priority on our agenda. Why do you think Jesus made the statement "The poor will always be among you?" It was because the leaders of the day were holding that as a priority over what was important for the disciples to be doing! Babies are dying on our watch. Abortion is being used as birth control. Catholic doctors will be forced into murdering Americans. Nancy thinks that will cut down government spending and foreign aid. This isn't communism?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is one thing for a person to voluntarily help the poor based on the example of Christ and the saints. It is another thing when socialist politicians impose taxes so that those who are perfectly capable of working and earning a living, are given a handout, rather than a hand up. I don't recall anything in the bible that says we are required to suborn illegal activities, sloth, or hypocritical politicians like Nancy Pelosi. Do you think she is going to give up her retirement to help the poor? Nope. She's one of the hypocrites that imposes rules on others while exempting themselves from their actions. We are called by Jesus to do the right thing for others. But, it should never be required by secular law, lest we become like the Muslim countries: corrupt, intolerant, and full of hatred. Jesus does not force himself upon us, he invites us to choose Him and to do the right thing. I give enough to Caesar already, and I won't be told by corrupt hypocritical politicians that my money belongs to someone else. They work for you and me, not the other way around.

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